You know, for all I've heard about how Adolescence is this incisive look at the dangers of incel culture, this article is the first one I've seen that mentioned anything about the immediate impetus for Katie's murder being that she was cyberbullying Jamie. To turn that into a moral comment on incel culture is, I guess, an approach, but it's certainly not an intuitive one. When teenagers kill themselves, we don't generally presume that romanticized suicide culture is to blame rather than whatever was going on in their real lives at the time to prompt them to want to commit suicide in the first place.
I'm not sure I understand you though - are you saying Adolescence or I have turned Katie's cyberbullying into a 'moral comment on incel culture'? Either way, what do you think that commentary might be?
Speaking for myself, the show makes it clear that Katie was also cyberbullied and I was hopefully careful not to victim blame or exonerate the role of incel culture on Jamie's moral sensibility (although I have to confess to being confused by the show making the connection in the first place and then somehow minimising it).
Not you or the show. Just most other commentary I've read about it, makes Adolescence sound like it's just about how bad incel culture is, without any of that other context you describe here.
The miniseries actually makes it easy for other commentators to focus on the evils of incel culture - it gives them the opportunity to ignore the real social issues surrounding the rise of knife violence amongst teenagers.
You know, for all I've heard about how Adolescence is this incisive look at the dangers of incel culture, this article is the first one I've seen that mentioned anything about the immediate impetus for Katie's murder being that she was cyberbullying Jamie. To turn that into a moral comment on incel culture is, I guess, an approach, but it's certainly not an intuitive one. When teenagers kill themselves, we don't generally presume that romanticized suicide culture is to blame rather than whatever was going on in their real lives at the time to prompt them to want to commit suicide in the first place.
Thanks for reading and commenting William.
I'm not sure I understand you though - are you saying Adolescence or I have turned Katie's cyberbullying into a 'moral comment on incel culture'? Either way, what do you think that commentary might be?
Speaking for myself, the show makes it clear that Katie was also cyberbullied and I was hopefully careful not to victim blame or exonerate the role of incel culture on Jamie's moral sensibility (although I have to confess to being confused by the show making the connection in the first place and then somehow minimising it).
Not you or the show. Just most other commentary I've read about it, makes Adolescence sound like it's just about how bad incel culture is, without any of that other context you describe here.
Thanks for the clarification William.
The miniseries actually makes it easy for other commentators to focus on the evils of incel culture - it gives them the opportunity to ignore the real social issues surrounding the rise of knife violence amongst teenagers.